[German4rings]

Ducati ****** up again! My bike apparently doesn’t have the master recall in it but I have to bleed the master on the clutch like every 200 miles . I can’t believe these guys dropped the ball this hard on such a basic function on a motorcycle . All for those stupid looking fancy pants aluminum brackets that hold the fluid res off the bars . They kink the line and trap air that over a shorter and shorter time causes the clutch to stop functioning properly . First you notice you can’t find neutral . Then you start loosing more and more clutch until it only works with the quick shift. I hope someone from Ducati actually reads the comments off this forum so the 2019’s don’t have the same problems .....

 

[Bikeman]

Yeah I've seen reports that there are some owners who are now bleeding every 2 tanks of fuel. Imo they should really be doing this recall across all models, regardless of whether or not its included in the 'affected' units.

 

[German4rings]

Agreed ! It’s terrible !

 

[Zak Smith]

 

[Tommyboy]

If the master recall properly addresses this issue then I don't see why they wouldn't just make it optional for any owner to do. You'd think it would be cheaper than any possible lawsuit that could arise from an accident relating to clutch.

 

[Zak Smith]

I'd have to check the paperwork but my V4S had "all" outstanding recalls already done when I got it, in August. The clutch has been bled once by the dealer and another 3x by me (quick bleed). The local Ducati performance shop says they can usually fix it going to a higher performance Motul DOT4, but I haven't done that yet.

 

[oleary]

OK, I hate to be rude but you started it.

Einstein's definition of insanity:

"Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome."

 

[Zak Smith]

Just trying to keep a good attitude about it... until a longer term fix can be found

 

[oleary]

Just trying to keep a good attitude about it... until a longer term fix can be found

This ain't rocket science.

There can be only three sources of the problem:

(1) Leaking clutch slave.
(2) Leaking line/fittings.
(3) Leaking master cylinder.

There is no "longer term fix".

I would make Ducati fix the dam*ed thing now, .... or fix it myself.

 

[Zak Smith]

The meme was a joke. I gave the dealer the opportunity to fix it at the first service. Since then it has required one additional bleed, so now I have something to show them indicating it needs additional attention.

 

[playersnoopy]

Mine only started to become an issue after the Brembo clutch kit replacement due to recall; then the clutch faded like crazy, took it in to be bled and resolved it for about 2-3 days then started to fade rapidly and could only be used at max adjustment at the lever having the screw pretty much all the way into the clutch pump. Then had to pump the clutch most of the time to get it working to somewhat usable state. Complained to the dealership and they had Ducati replace the pump and now it's working properly for over 2 weeks now. Best of all I have full adjustment capabilities now while before you could only adjust it to make the clutch work, now I can adjust to a position I want my clutch lever to be. There's no recall on the pump/master cylinder replacement, I assume it's not an issue on every bike? My clutch fade was never an issue until the initial recall on the clutch kit.

 

[German4rings]

Again,
From what I know it’s basically just a shite design from Ducati. They could resolve the issue by simply placing the fluid res directly on top of the masters on the bars . The problem is they have it at an angle attached with that hose that basically kinks and doesn’t allow any air to travel back up into the res and traps air .

 

[oleary]

Again,
From what I know it’s basically just a shite design from Ducati. They could resolve the issue by simply placing the fluid res directly on top of the masters on the bars . The problem is they have it at an angle attached with that hose that basically kinks and doesn’t allow any air to travel back up into the res and traps air .

Dunno about that, I have five Ducatis in my garage and they all have the same design - they all work just fine.

FYI, it's a Brembo design, not a Ducati design.

 

[German4rings]

Dunno about that, I have five Ducatis in my garage and they all have the same design - they all work just fine.

FYI, it's a Brembo design, not a Ducati design.

Sorry friend but I don’t think you’ re correct . Yes brembo designs the masters and all but that fancy aluminum bracket is Ducati’s handiwork .... this isn’t my first Ducati either . 2005 monster 620 dark, 2007 monster s4rs , 2007 749s , 2009 mistristrada 1100s, 2009 1098s, 2014 1199s, and this 2018 v4s . I’m def not new to the product line ��. I had some issues with the panigale 1199s but no where near as bad as this one . I almost just bleed it now like every few rides just in case . It only takes 2 minutes with the 11mm wrench but it’s besides the point .....

 

[tyr]

Sorry friend but I don’t think you’ re correct . Yes brembo designs the masters and all but that fancy aluminum bracket is Ducati’s handiwork .... this isn’t my first Ducati either . 2005 monster 620 dark, 2007 monster s4rs , 2007 749s , 2009 mistristrada 1100s, 2009 1098s, 2014 1199s, and this 2018 v4s . I’m def not new to the product line ��. I had some issues with the panigale 1199s but no where near as bad as this one . I almost just bleed it now like every few rides just in case . It only takes 2 minutes with the 11mm wrench but it’s besides the point .....

This is what I was dealing with as well after having the slave and master replaced. Still required bleeding every 200-300 miles (basically every other ride) like you said. I guess it could be lines/connectors leaking, but I'm starting to doubt that's the case with all the other people reporting the issue even after having the parts replaced.

 

[Zak Smith]

I took it in to the dealer. The explanation I got was that since it was already bled at the 1st service by them, and I had to bleed it in a few hundred miles after, they opened some sort of case with Ducati USA the result of which was that they replaced the clutch fluid with "full synthetic" because they "thought it was heat related."



Also, apparently there is a new bulletin that applies regarding routing of the rear wheel speed sensor cable and possible replacement of the rear wheel speed sensor itself in certain cases. They're keeping the bike to do those updates as soon as parts come in.

 

[V4Dream]

at least so far it seems that Ducati is handling these issues well because damage control is everything, seen for myself how it can make or break a brand.

 

[Panzer07]

Mine just started acting up, had to adjust knob just to get it going without stalling bike.

 

[playersnoopy]

Mine just started acting up, had to adjust knob just to get it going without stalling bike.

yep... then you get to max adjustments and then at every light you're pumping the clutch Everyone asks me if I'm ok lol.

I just got off the phone w/ DNA today and have an appointment scheduled w/ my dealership for Monday so I can ride this weekend first; hopefully they do something about it.

 

[tyr]

yep... then you get to max adjustments and then at every light you're pumping the clutch Everyone asks me if I'm ok lol.

I just got off the phone w/ DNA today and have an appointment scheduled w/ my dealership for Monday so I can ride this weekend first; hopefully they do something about it.

weren't you just saying it was fixed?